@bmecher The typical Solar Panel today achieves between 10% and 15% conversion, with a theoretical max of about 21%, which means stirling is a better option than panels, and even panels are becoming cheaper. It also appears to me that construction of these stirling types or even boiler to steam turbine)
@bmecher You are correct… Theoretically.
Personally, I’d like to have one of those big dishes for myself. Would be enough power for a small farm.
Another thing to consider however… is water usage: You have to clean those mirrors… somehow.
@soylentgreenb I’ll tell you what makes this system different. It takes FAR less area to get the same output compared to a bunch of solar Panels. Try laying out solar Panels to get up to 25Kw. You will find out shortly that it requires far more space than 1 dish. Photovoltaic are only around 7% efficient because they only capture light photons though Spectrolab demonstrated the ability of a photovoltaic cell to convert 40.7%. This Stirling engine is around 40% efficient.
This magnitude is exactly where we need to see solar go. At that scale it becomes a real competitor, especially if you add in how much cheaper it is in the long run
I’ve been hearing about Sterling Energy Systems building that 500MW plant for a while now, was supposed to be finished in 2007, kept getting delayed each year and now say will finish in Q4 2010. Very suspicious, wonder if they can really match the claims they are saying or just another company which takes the money and fizzles out.
Ninety-three [93] millions miles, far from our Earth to Sun!!?? How much Energy down from the Sun to Earth? HOW MUCH WE-HUMAN ON THE EARTH USED WIND, SOLAR ENEGRY FROM SUN EACH YEARS?
soylentgreenb-as long as you’re using existing transmission infrastructure-then why should it cost any more to transmit solar electricity than coal or nuclear electricity? After all, its all just *electrons*. Indeed, due to the ability of solar power plants to be built on a smaller, dsitributed basis, you can eliminate much of the waste associated with transmission & distribution from large, inefficient coal/nuclear power station.
I have a simple design where you mount 2 half dishes on equatorial mount. You do not need to move the target, just the dish. I think it is easier. Brian
The reason for 2 half dishes is to keep the center of gravity balanced as you change the dish angles over the seasons.
we need all the CSP technology we can get…. dish, power tower, trough, I don’t care, let’s install it on a massive scale.
Good 500 MW start though. I understand these do not require water cooling?
I will believe it when Wal-Mart starts installing these on the buildings that are located in areas that do not have height restrictions on signs.
@bmecher is overall cheaper than the manufacture of solar panels
@bmecher The typical Solar Panel today achieves between 10% and 15% conversion, with a theoretical max of about 21%, which means stirling is a better option than panels, and even panels are becoming cheaper. It also appears to me that construction of these stirling types or even boiler to steam turbine)
Yeah! Then they buy that energy from North Dakota and never pay for it!!!
Fuck faces!
@bmecher You are correct… Theoretically.
Personally, I’d like to have one of those big dishes for myself. Would be enough power for a small farm.
Another thing to consider however… is water usage: You have to clean those mirrors… somehow.
Ok greens,
what is the price for this single 25kW solar plant?
Or what is the price of 1kWh produced by this mirracle?
I’m dealing with yields.
@sonofhendrix You. Are. So. Fucking. RIGHT!
@sonofhendrix Makes sense: BP (British Petroleum) Recently Spent $15 Million towards advertising against Clean energy Sources.
@soylentgreenb I’ll tell you what makes this system different. It takes FAR less area to get the same output compared to a bunch of solar Panels. Try laying out solar Panels to get up to 25Kw. You will find out shortly that it requires far more space than 1 dish. Photovoltaic are only around 7% efficient because they only capture light photons though Spectrolab demonstrated the ability of a photovoltaic cell to convert 40.7%. This Stirling engine is around 40% efficient.
@Shwetank1 Your response below amounts to 25MW per dish as claimed. Of course it’s not always going to match there claims, but at peak it will.
@dan020350 It is a Stirling engine (with an “I”). It is combined with a parabolic dish.
I see, so its called a sterling Dish
each system enough to power 10 homes
here’s how i see it, the north for wind, the south for sun
This magnitude is exactly where we need to see solar go. At that scale it becomes a real competitor, especially if you add in how much cheaper it is in the long run
@Shwetank1 They just opened a 1.5MW plant with 60x dishes in Arizona and recently formed a partnership with Boeing.
It’s not hard to find this info on Google.
I’ve been hearing about Sterling Energy Systems building that 500MW plant for a while now, was supposed to be finished in 2007, kept getting delayed each year and now say will finish in Q4 2010. Very suspicious, wonder if they can really match the claims they are saying or just another company which takes the money and fizzles out.
@tsport100 What a coincidence!
Ninety-three [93] millions miles, far from our Earth to Sun!!?? How much Energy down from the Sun to Earth? HOW MUCH WE-HUMAN ON THE EARTH USED WIND, SOLAR ENEGRY FROM SUN EACH YEARS?
soylentgreenb-as long as you’re using existing transmission infrastructure-then why should it cost any more to transmit solar electricity than coal or nuclear electricity? After all, its all just *electrons*. Indeed, due to the ability of solar power plants to be built on a smaller, dsitributed basis, you can eliminate much of the waste associated with transmission & distribution from large, inefficient coal/nuclear power station.
I will buy it.
I have a simple design where you mount 2 half dishes on equatorial mount. You do not need to move the target, just the dish. I think it is easier. Brian
The reason for 2 half dishes is to keep the center of gravity balanced as you change the dish angles over the seasons.
we need all the CSP technology we can get…. dish, power tower, trough, I don’t care, let’s install it on a massive scale.
Good 500 MW start though. I understand these do not require water cooling?
They have started building these now on a massive scale guys
we’ll get the blacks to carry it to us ;D
racist much?